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MARSH FAMILIES
DNA PROJECT
SOME UK DISTANT COUSINS
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NOTE: This page is subject to ongoing revision
from September 2005. Latest update 1 Jan 2006.
Purpose
To determine the distribution of participants with roots
in the United Kingdom who have result patterns similar or close to my own.
The Figures
The table below shows my results from the combined 25-marker
FTDNA analysis and the 36-marker SMGF analysis of my DNA samples compared
to those of some United Kingdom families with different surnames as obtained
from the SMGF Y-database, updated September 2005. All of these families
have matches for 70% or more of my results. Families were found rooted
in Durham, Yorkshire, Devon, Staffordshire, Lanarkshire, and Northumberland.
My own family having roots in Kent.
It should be noted the wide distribution of the families;
from the extreme southeast (Kent), to the southwest (Devon), through the
Midlands (Staffordshire) on toYorkshire in the east, up through Northern
England (Northumberland) and into Scotland (Glasgow, Lanarkshire). This
would indicate that our tribe was well established at some point in England
at a very early date. Studies have shown that males
with similar DNA result patterns to those tablulated below (belonging to
the same haplogroup) were Jutes who came to England from Denmark. Support
for this finding is given below in the article JUTES
extracted from the Encyclopaedia Britannica.
Who am I to arguewith Encylopaedia Britannica?
The possibility exists that my ancient ancestors were Jutes. But we must
not forget the earlier Celtic migrations.
I shall be preparing a page similar to this for families
with roots known to be in Europe. See Some European
Cousins.
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| Me Ken |
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13 |
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31 |
20 |
10 |
12 |
14 |
16 |
11 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
13 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
23 |
26 |
31 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
15 |
8 |
10 |
10 |
11 |
12 |
22 |
11 |
14 |
14 |
14 |
11 |
19 |
21 |
11 |
21 |
10 |
| UK1 Dur |
15 |
15 |
13 |
13 |
32 |
20 |
10 |
12 |
14 |
16 |
11 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
24 |
27 |
31 |
12 |
11 |
14 |
15 |
8 |
10 |
10 |
11 |
12 |
22 |
-- |
-- |
-- |
-- |
11 |
19 |
21 |
12 |
21 |
10 |
| UK2 Yks |
14 |
15 |
13 |
14 |
31 |
23 |
10 |
12 |
14 |
16 |
11 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
13 |
10 |
11 |
25 |
23 |
27 |
31 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
15 |
8 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
12 |
22 |
-- |
-- |
-- |
-- |
11 |
19 |
21 |
12 |
21 |
10 |
| UK3 Dev |
15 |
15 |
13 |
12 |
31 |
20 |
11 |
12 |
14 |
16 |
11 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
23 |
27 |
32 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
15 |
8 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
-- |
22 |
-- |
-- |
-- |
-- |
11 |
19 |
21 |
12 |
21 |
10 |
| UK4 Dev |
15 |
15 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
23 |
10 |
12 |
15 |
16 |
11 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
13 |
10 |
11 |
25 |
23 |
26 |
32 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
15 |
8 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
12 |
22 |
-- |
-- |
-- |
-- |
11 |
19 |
21 |
12 |
21 |
10 |
| UK5 Sta |
15 |
15 |
13 |
14 |
32 |
23 |
10 |
12 |
14 |
16 |
11 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
13 |
10 |
11 |
25 |
23 |
27 |
33 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
15 |
8 |
10 |
12 |
11 |
12 |
22 |
-- |
-- |
-- |
-- |
11 |
19 |
21 |
12 |
21 |
10 |
| UK6 Lan |
15 |
15 |
13 |
13 |
32 |
23 |
10 |
12 |
14 |
16 |
11 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
10 |
11 |
25 |
23 |
28 |
33 |
11 |
11 |
16 |
15 |
8 |
10 |
10 |
11 |
12 |
22 |
-- |
-- |
-- |
-- |
11 |
19 |
22 |
12 |
21 |
11 |
| UK7 Cum |
15 |
15 |
13 |
14 |
30 |
23 |
10 |
12 |
14 |
16 |
11 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
13 |
10 |
11 |
26 |
23 |
26 |
32 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
15 |
8 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
12 |
22 |
-- |
-- |
-- |
-- |
11 |
19 |
21 |
12 |
21 |
10 |
| Common |
15 |
15 |
13 |
-- |
-- |
-- |
10 |
12 |
14 |
16 |
11 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
13 |
-- |
11 |
25 |
23 |
-- |
-- |
11 |
11 |
14 |
15 |
8 |
10 |
-- |
11 |
12 |
22 |
-- |
-- |
-- |
-- |
11 |
19 |
21 |
12 |
21 |
10 |
NOTE: I have used the
Sorenson calibration throughout the table.
*To convert FTDNA scores to Sorenson scores: DYS394/19
add 1; DYS448 add 3: Y-GATA-H4 add 1.
*DYS 464a, 464b, 464c and 464d are markers analysed
at FTDNA, but not included in the SMGF set.
*DYS 438, GGAAT1B07, YCAIIa, YCAIIb, YGATA-A10 andYGATA-Ha
are markers analysed by SMGF, but not included in the FTDNA set.
It is readily seen that some markers are common
to all records in the table and there are others where a single value predominates.
I have labelled a row 'Common' to show these. This set of results can be
considered as part of the DNA for a founder of a branch in the world family
tree, to which the branch denoted by the common results of the chart on
My
Results page attaches.
JUTES, a Germanic people who,
with the Angles and Saxons, invaded Britain in the 5th century A.D. Unlike
the Angles and especially the Saxons ( qq.v.) , they have no recorded
history on the continent. Venantius Fortunatus (d. 609) mentions
the Jute (Euthio) beside the Dane and the Saxon (Carmina ix,
i, 73) and this supports the assumption that they were the original
inhabitants of Jutland. Bede (Historia 'ecclesiastica, i, 15) correspondingly
places the Angles between the Jutes and the Saxons. If, as is amost certain,
the Jutes are the Eotens of the Anglo-Saxon poem Beowulf,
we find them involved in a feud of Frisians and a branch of the Danes,and
an exiled Danish king takes refuge among them.
This amounts to considerable evidence that their home
was in the Scandinavian area and that they were later absorbed by the Danes
in so far as they had not migrated. Hence Old Norse J6tar means
"Danesof Jutland." The only contrary evidence is a letter of the Frankish
king Theudibe!t I (d. 548) to Justinian (Monumenta Gernaiae historica,
epistolae, vol. iii) mentioning Jutes (Eucii) among his subjects,
but this suggests merely that some Jutes took part in the Saxon continental
expansion.
According to Bede, the Jutes settled in Kent, the Isle
of Wight and parts of Hampshire. In Kent their name soon died out, but
there are considerable signs in its social structure that its settlers
were of a different race from their neighbours (see
KENT, KINGDOM OF). There is archaeological evidence to confirm
Bede's statement that Wight was settled by the same people as Kent, and
their prescence in Hampshire is confirmed by place name formation. Furthermore
the. chronicler Florence of Worcester, describing the death of William
II in the New Forest, said that it was known as Y'tene, "'Jutland"
(B. Thorpe [ed.] ,
Florentii Wigorniensis chronicon [1848-49] ).
The Kentish dialect of Old English exhibits closer affinity
with Frisian than does any other known Old English dialect, but the similarities
are of comparatively late date and are due to intercommunication after
the conquest of England. Similarly, affinities with the Franks revealed
by archaeology and the study of social structure are to be attributed to
cultural influences, perhaps strengthened by immigration later than the
original settlement.
See R. G. Collingwood and I. N. L. Myres, Roman Britain
and the English Settlements, 2nd ed. ( 1937) ; I. E. A. Iolliffe, Pre-Feudal
England: the Jutes (1933). (AL. C.)
THE KINGDOM OF KENT,
KENT, KINGDOM OF, one of the kingdoms of Anglo- Saxon
England,the dimensions of which seem to have corresponded with those
of the present county, According to tradition, the first Anglo-Saxon
settlers, led by Hengist and Horsa (see HENGIST AND HORSA), landed at the
invitation of the British king Vortigern at Ebbsfleet in Kent, an event
dated by Bede between 446 and 454. The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle,
perhaps
using a lost list of Kentish kings, says that Hengist and his son Aesc
began to reign in 455, and that Aesc reigned alone from 488 to 512. Nothing
further is known of Kentish history until the reign of Aethelberht (q.v.),
who came to the throne in 560 and was defeated and driven back into Kent
by the West Saxons at a place called Wibbandun (Wimbledon) in 568. By 595,
however, he had become overlord of all the English kingdoms south
of the Humber. He married Berhta, daughter of Charibert, king of Paris,
and she brought with her a Christian bishop, Liudhard; It may have been
on this account that Kent was chosen as the landing place of Augustine's
mission in 597. After Aethelberht's conversion to Christianity, he gave
a dwelling place in Canterbury to the missionaries, and hence this became
the archiepiscepal see of the English church. A second see was created
at Rochester in 604, a fact which suggests that Kent was already divided
into East and West Kent, which is clear in later records. Under ecclesiastical
influence, Aethelberht issued the first written code of Anglo-Saxon laws.
On his death in 616, Aethelberhtwas succeeded
by his son Eadbald, who was a heathen and who married his stepmother, but
was shortly afterward converted by Laurentius, Augustine's successor. Eadbald
married his sister Aethelberg to Edwin of Northumbria, who had obtained
the supremacy over the lands south of the Humber, except for Kent. No kings
of Kent ever recovered the overlordship held by Aethelberht. Eadbald's
son Ercenberht, who succeeded in 640; was the first king to enforce the
acceptance of Christianity in his kingdom. His son Egbert, who reigned
from 664 to 673, was king in Surrey as well as Kent, and founded
the monastery of Chertsey. He was succeeded by his brother Hlothhere, in
whose reign Kent was raided by Aethelred of Mercia in 676, and ten years
later Aethelred still had some power in Kent.
Hlothhere issued a code of laws, together with his nephew
Eadric, but in 685 the latter brought an army from Sussex against his uncle
and early in 685 Hlothhere died of wounds received in battle. On Eadric's
death in 686 Kent was divided among a number of kings, one of whom was
Sigehere of Essex and another Ceadwalla of Wessex, who founded a monastery
at Hoo, Kent. Ceadwalla's brother Mul was burned
by the men of Kent in 687, and the Kentish royal line was re-established
about 690 by Eadric's brother Wihtred, though
at first a member of the East Saxon royal house reigned with him. He seems
to have soon gained the whole kingdom, and reigned until 725, recognizing
no overlord. He too issued a code of laws (695).
Wihted was succeeded by three sons, Aethelberht
II, Eadberht and Alric. In the middle of the
century the first two and Eadberht's son Eardwulf were reigning jointly.
Aethelberht died in 762 and there is no later mention of the others. Later
kings, Sigered in 762, Eanmund a little later, Heahberht in 764 and 765,
and Egbert from 765 to 779, are not know to belong to the royal line. Meanwhile
Offa of Mercia was establishing his power in Kent. Heappears as overlord
of Heahberht and Egbert, and deals alone with Kentish lands in 774. The
men of Kent fought the Mercians at Otford in 776, probably with success,
for there is no sign of Offa 's influence in Kent for the next ten years
and a king Ealhmund (father of Egbert of Wessex) appear's to have been
independent of Offa in 784. But from 785 until his death (796) Offa was
supreme in Kent. In 787 he persuaded the pope to divide the province of
Canterbury by making Lichfield into an archiepiscopal see. On Offa's death
Kent revolted, setting up a king called Eadberht Praen, who was captured
by Coenwulf of Mercia in 798. The latter's brother, Cuthred, was king of
Kent until 807; Coenwulf then ruled Kent directly, and no king of Kent
is heard of until Baldred. who was reigning in 825 when Kent was coriquered
by Egbert o!Wessex. Coenwulf abolished the archbishopric of Lichfield in
802.
Henceforward, Kent was a province of Wessex, but
for some time it was ruled as a subkingdom along with Surrey, Sussex and
Essex, first by Egbert's son Aethelwulf, and then, in 839, by the latter's
son Aethelstan, last heard of in 851. Aethelwulf relinquished Wessex to
his son Aethelbald and resumed the rule of Kent in 856, and on his death
this passed to his third son Aethelberht, who united it with Wessex when
he succeeded to that kingdom in 860.
In the later 9th century Kent was controlled by two ealdormen, but in the
later Saxon period by a single ealdorman.
The social organization of Kent has many features
peculiar to it, which support Bede's statement (Historia ecclesiastica,
i, 15) that its inhabitants were a different tribe from the Angles
and Saxons, namely the Jutes (q.v.). Whether these were, as Bede
believed, from Jutland, or, as archaeological evidence may suggest, from
a district near to Frankish territory, is disputed. Instead of the two
noble classes (gesithcund) of Wessex and Mercia, Kent had only one ( eorlcund)
, and the Kentish ceorl had a wergild twice as high as that of the same
class elsewhere. There were also classes of persons called laets, probably
freedmen, who are not mentioned in other kingdoms. Moreover Kentish customs
in later times, especially with regard to the tenure of land, show many
peculiarities. For administrative purposes, Kent was divided into lathes,
apparently attached to royal vills and under the control of reeves,
See F. M. Stenton, Anglo-Saxon England, 2nd
ed. (1947) ; J. E. A. Jolliffe, Pre-Feudal England: the Jutes (1933).
(D. WK.)
Comparing The Trees in Detail
A set of trees with some detail for all of the families above
is shown below. The information entered is dependent on what the participant
has chosen to supply to SMGF; it may be the limit of the participant's
research, or just that he decided not to provide anything further.
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MARSH, Kent
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EMMERSON, Durham
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WOOD, Yorkshire
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GUSCOTT, Devonshire
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CHAPPLE, Devonshire
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MATTHEWS, Staffordshire
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PARK, Lanark, Scotland
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MAUGHAN, Cumberland
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William Abt 1550
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William 1594
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John 1622
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James c1611
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Barham, Kent
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Glasgow, Lanark
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Abraham 1645
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James 1636
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Barham, Kent
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Glasgow, Lanark
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John 1682
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John 1674
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Thomas c1685
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Barham, Kent
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Glasgow, Lanark
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Haltwhistle,
Northumberland
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John 1711
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Abel c1758
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James 1718
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John 1717
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Barham, Kent
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Almondbury, Yorkkshire
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Glasgow, Lanark
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Haltwhistle, Northumberland
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Abraham 1748
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Samuel 1784
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William 1745
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Thomas 1739
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Barham, Kent
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Almondbury, Yorkshire
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Coulston, Lanark
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Bellingham, Northumberland
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Abraham 1774
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George 1816
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James 1766
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William 1779
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Barham, Kent
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Slaithwaite, Yorkshire
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Kent,Nr Glasgow
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Milton,Cumb.
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George 1798
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John 1842
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William 1808
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John 1802
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Peter 1811
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Wingham, Kent
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Slaithwaite, Yorkshire
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South Molton, Devon
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Kent,Nr Glasgow
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Farlam, Cumberland
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John 1840
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Joseph 1844
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William A 1880
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George 1843
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William 1834
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Edwin
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John S 1840
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William H 1834
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Denton, Kent
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Winlaton, Durham
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Murray, UT, USA
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Exeter, Devon
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South Molton, Devon
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Handsworth, Staffordshire
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Provo, UT, USA
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Alston, Cumberland
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John 1859
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Joseph 1883
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David J 1873
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Benjamin O 1872
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Charles E 1869
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William S 1885
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Joseph M 1872
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Folkestone, Kent
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Chapwell, Durham
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Newburgh, Ohio
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Ogden,UT,USA |
West Bromwich, Staffordshire
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Orem, UT, USA
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Wellsville, UT, USA
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Ernest 1881
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Gilbert I 1899
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Folkestone, Kent
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Cleveland, Ohio
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William 1923
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Emmerson UK1
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Wood UK2
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Guscott UK3
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Chapple UK4
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Matthews UK5
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Park UK6
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Maughan UK7
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South Norwood, Surrey
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Proven Ancestry
